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Рома vs Владимир - Questions and Answers (A Question)

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A dentist noticed that his next patient, an elderly lady, was looking very nervous so he decided to tell her a little joke as he put on his gloves.
“Do you know how they make these gloves?” he asked. “No, I don’t” she replied.
Well,” he spoofed, “there’s a building in China with a big tank of latex and workers of all hand sizes walk up to the tank, dip in their hands, let them dry, then peel off the gloves and throw them into boxes of the right size.”
She didn’t crack a smile. “Oh, well. I tried.” – he thought.
Five minutes later, during a delicate portion of the dental procedure, she burst out laughing.
“What’s so funny?” he asked. “I was just picturing how condoms are made!” – she said.

Discussion

РомаРома, 2017/06/28 20:49, 2017/07/02 20:51

1. Why this dentist and also any other physician need their patient to be calm ? ← Нужен грамматический глагол (ЮН)
Не понял, что же нужно. Можно пример ? (РВ)

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/03 18:34
Do you speak English? → do - грамматический глагол/граммема; speak - смысловой глагол; you - подлежащее; English - дополнение/объект
РомаРома, 2017/07/03 18:55

Спасибо. Why do this dentist and also any other physician need their patient to be calm ?

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/03 19:32
Подлежащее какого числа?
РомаРома, 2017/07/03 19:39

Единственного. Why does this dentist and also any other physician need their patient to be calm ?
Their то к месту ?

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/03 19:42, 2017/07/03 20:12

да

пациентов сколько? Один общий на всех?

РомаРома, 2017/07/03 20:47

Если не менять предложение, и оставить Why does this dentist…, то скорее patient.

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/03 20:54

число patient управляется перед ним стоящими словами

РомаРома, 2017/07/05 10:27, 2017/07/05 10:28

Предложение я сконструировал не очень хорошо. Много смысла попытался вложить, а инструмент/инвентарь слаб.
Пусть для этого контекста будет так -
Why did this dentist need his patient to be calm ?
А более общий вопрос пусть звучит так -
Why do physicians need their patients to be calm ?
А хотел я вот что -
Почему этому зубному врачу (да и вообще любому другому врачу) нужен спокойный пациент ?
Пытаюсь ещё раз-
Why does this dentist (and also any other physician) need his patient to be calm ?

?

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/05 11:27, 2017/07/05 11:27

Все равно нужно their, а не his по соображениям политкорректности

РомаРома, 2017/07/05 12:08

Во всех трёх случаях ?
Остальное - ок ?

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/09 12:42, 2017/07/09 12:43

Оставь так: Why does this dentist and also any other physician need their patients to be calm?

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/01 17:07, 2017/07/01 17:07

Because medical procedures may have delicate portions.

What did the elderly lady do when she understood the little joke?

РомаРома, 2017/07/02 20:50, 2017/07/21 15:13

She probably pictured penis insertion by virtue of dentist's fingers coated with rubber inside her mouth two moments before she burst out laughing.

What did the elderly lady actually picture, that made her laughing ? ← Почему that? (ЮН)

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 15:50

Что на самом деле представила дама-в-возрасте, что заставило её смеяться.

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/21 15:14

что можно опустить без изменения смысла?

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:35

В русском варианте придётся переформатировать предложение.
В английском - не знаю.

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/24 11:07, 2017/07/24 15:33

Просто ответь на вопрос: в высказывании Что на самом деле представила дама-в-возрасте, что заставило её смеяться. можно убрать второе что без изменения смысла?

РомаРома, 2017/07/24 20:30

Если не менять форму того, что следует за убираемым что, тогда ответ нет.

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/04 22:34, 2017/07/04 22:36

She pictured the big tank of latex was her vagina and the workers of all hand sizes tried to satisfy her but all in vian.

How long did it take her to get the joke and burst out laughing?

РомаРома, 2017/07/05 12:27, 2017/07/21 19:28

It took her about five minutes to get the joke and to burst out laughing.

What have this dentist actually done to elderly lady with his joke, so she even did not crack a smile ? ← Perfect, время, артикль (ЮН)

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 18:22

Единственное, что я бы переделал здесь, так добавил в конце то, что курсивом - What have this dentist actually done to elderly lady with his joke, so she even did not crack a smile after that ?
Т.е. что же такого сделал дантист своей шуткой, что это сделанное им не дало возможности леди засмеяться ?

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 18:52

И всё же второе, что необходимо переделать, так это перфект (Present→Past).
What had this dentist actually done to elderly lady with his joke, so she even did not crack a smile after that ?

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:40

What had this dentist actually done to the elderly lady with his joke, that she even did not crack a smile after that ?

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/24 15:36

Действия врача и пациентки точечные и одномоментные, поэтому оба в Past Simple

РомаРома, 2017/07/24 19:29

Вот хрестоматийный пример,
Our train has left now.
Our train had left at 10 AM.
в котором и точечность и одномоментность упакована в перфекты 2х видов.

Но даже и без этого примера действия врача я в этом контексте-рассказе не назвал бы одномоментными, он и резиноперчатки тянул и рассказывал в диалоге.

Также его действия привели к определённому эффекту, которого бы не было без его действий.

А пациентка - да, в нужный момент она точечно/одномоментно не улыбнулась, но это сути(хода событий) не изменило.

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/16 00:11, 2017/07/16 00:12

The dentist actually achieved his goal - the elderly lady was calm at least for five minutes.

What did the dentist imply when he told a joke about China and Chinese?

РомаРома, 2017/07/17 22:18, 2017/07/21 21:42

I guess, he implied first that he is just a kind of unskilled worker or service staff, since he and Chinese were on the same side of the gloves. It might make her feel mighty. And more calm.

Yuri ScherbakovYuri Scherbakov, 2017/07/18 14:56

Еще по вопросу нужно с каждой стороны.

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 15:46

С моей - два.

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 15:47, 2017/07/18 21:46

How old is the dentist ?

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/18 22:22, 2017/07/18 22:23

Presumably the dentist is 25 or 30 years old.

What is verb in the phrase “she even did not crack a smile”?

РомаРома, 2017/07/18 22:49, 2017/07/18 23:19

This sentence contains two verbs - “to do” and “to crack”. ← Is an infinitive a verb? (ЮН)

What is this “how Chinese make gloves” joke about?

РомаРома, 2017/07/19 08:11, 2017/07/21 21:45

Infinitive is the basic form of a verb, without an inflection binding it to a particular subject or tense (e.g. see in we came to see, let him see ).
So, being more specific, I have to say that This sentence contains two verbs - “do” and “crack”. ← do? (ЮН)

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/18 23:17

The “how Chinese make gloves” joke is about primitiveness of Chinese.

What do you think the “how Chinese make gloves” joke is about?

РомаРома, 2017/07/19 08:03, 2017/07/21 21:46

They also use Canada and Mexico for this joke, so I think it is about poor local economic and the fear of identity/integrity loss. Vladimir, do you have any other questions ?

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:42, 2017/07/24 15:42

They also use Canada and Mexico for this joke, so I think it is about poor local economics** and the fear of identity/integrity loss. Vladimir, do you have any other questions ?

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/20 21:21

No more questions.

РомаРома, 2017/07/21 20:43

Well, shall we start the most interesting part (which you actually have begun) - answering our own questions ?

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/21 21:52

OK. You start.

РомаРома, 2017/07/22 20:53

What did the dentist imply when he told a joke about China and Chinese?

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/23 11:57, 2017/07/23 12:04

The dentist implied that Chinese are more primitive than European.

Why do you want to discuss this text in the volume of more than ten questions?

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:28, 2017/07/23 20:42

Number of questions do not matter at all. And I don't want to discuss this text itself, I just want to compare my and yours vision.

What did the elderly lady do when she understood the little joke?

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:50, 2017/07/23 21:03

The number of questions does not matter at all. And I don't want to discuss this text itself, I just want to compare my own and your visions.

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/23 21:11
my and yours vision.
my own and your visions.

Я бы так сделал: my vision and yours.

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 22:12, 2017/07/23 22:12
Я бы так сделал: my vision and yours.

Точно. Спасибо.
The number of questions does not matter at all. And I don't want to discuss this text itself, I just want to compare /my vision and your vision.

Vladimir LopatinVladimir Lopatin, 2017/07/23 20:40, 2017/07/23 20:40
I just want to compare my and yours vision

OK.

What do YOU think the dentist implied when he told a joke about China and Chinese?

What did the elderly lady do when she understood the little joke?

I agree with your answer.

РомаРома, 2017/07/23 20:49
What do YOU think the dentist implied when he told a joke about China and Chinese?

I have already answered this question.

I guess, he implied first that he is just a kind of unskilled worker or service staff, since he and Chinese were on the same side of the gloves. It might make her feel mighty. And more calm.

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